Episode 12 – Doomsday Clock #10…What Does It Mean?

Most of the time, when I read a new comic I go through it, decide if it was good or not, and move on quickly.  Occasionally I like a book so much that I just have to talk about it with friends.  Rarely does a new comic grab me and not let go, but Doomsday Clock #10 did just that.  I just couldn’t get it out of my mind.  Forty-eight sleepless hours and several re-reads later I finally realized why and decided to talk about what this issue did to me and what it possibly means.  What is Doomsday Clock?  What does it represent for the larger DC Universe?  What does it mean and say about Superman?  Do certain characters represent something in the real world?  Can background music serve as a running joke that only you, as the host, will get?  All of those questions (with the exception of the last one) are discussed and explored.

Below is a gallery of images from Doomsday Clock #10.

Also, here are some of the “Polaroids” I “took” for the cork board posted above.

Next Time: Again…no idea.  This show isn’t planned out.  But, something will be coming at some point, because vague is always good when it comes to podcasting.


  1. I like your take here on Doomsday Clock #10, and what it might mean about DC’s approach(es) to Superman over the last several years. I must admit that I haven’t read any of this series, partly because I was not a fan of “The Watchmen”, because, although I understand deconstruction, I don’t generally find it enjoyable. Now, however, and based mainly on this episode, I will probably, when the Trade comes out (whenever that may be) read it.
    I liked your analogy, in your reply to Don Doherty’s comment, that shouting at the rain doesn’t stop the rain, although the rain may stop on its own. Shouting at the rain doesn’t make you a bad person, but it might make you look a bit “off”, sometimes. I’m a solid and stalwart fan of the pre-Crisis on Infinite Earths DC, myself, and I have a couple of friends who often rail against the post-Crisis stories and truly wish that we could have stories like those of our youth back again. I’ve pointed out that there have been some good stories during the past 30 years or so, and that we’re as unlikely to see true Silver Age-style stories again as we are to see people driving DeSotos or Studebakers again. I’ve also pointed out that people of our age and tastes are probably a small and less profitable audience, as far as the publishers are concerned, so we should probably celebrate the 25 or so years’ worth of stories we enjoyed and which are still available to us in various forms. I have found sampling some of the newer material, deciding what parts of that I like, and simply walking away from what I don’t enjoy to be the best path for me. That’s one of the best parts about listening to your podcasts and others in the comic book genre: They alert me to possibilities that I might enjoy, so I can at least check them out to see if I will like them.

  2. This podcast episode, constructed perfectly with measured thought, consideration of all sides, and insight that not only made me think, but encouraged me to run out to my local comic book store to read issue 10.

    Just like you mentioned in the podcast, after about four issues, I dropped the book because of the irregular release dates. I was ignoring the book all together, and I wasn’t even waiting for the trade, but after listening to you speak on the way way Geoff Johns used Dr. Manhattan to navigate and exercise his voyeuristic time/space jumping, I was definitely intrigued. And yes, after reading I was quite impressed.

    And I rather enjoyed the musical cues you used, especially where the topic switched to Henry Cavil, where I believe you used his Superman theme.

    Awesome stuff as always. And do you know when you’re covering Trail of Superman from the 90’s?

  3. Excellent take on an outstanding issue. Like you I read it several times to take it in. On my first read through the pieces didnt really click for me until the last page where it reminds us of all the times Manhattan did nothing when he could have prevented horrible acts. The line of Manhattan as a being of inaction on a collision course with a man of action has really stuck with me. I hope you you will cover 11 and 12 as well. Great stuff man.

  4. So, I listened to this podcast a few times, then re-read the book a few times. As I said in a separate email to you, I think your conclusion is true. Here’s a question for you – do you think Johns is being *self-critical* at all regarding Superman’s revisionism throughout the years? After all, he was one of the last architects of doing yet another Superman origin via “Secret Origins” (which I have some reservations about, but issues 5 and 6 save that series from being a complete dud, IMHO), so any criticism about revisions must include him. Or, is he only critiquing the “New 52” era? Another great episode!

  5. Great episode, but I just don’t understand how anyone can find Bendis’ work on Superman “magnificent.” He arrived at DC and immediately deconstructed everything wonderful that Johns and Rebirth restored. Speaking of Johns’ commentary on Superman and his place in the DCU seeming dated given the “continuation” of Rebirth, I think it’s very clear to anyone paying attention that the delays to DC began when Johns exited as CCO and DiDio and Lee returned to power. DiDio wasn’t back long before it was announced that Bendis was coming over and that DiDio had been instrumental in his defection. Manhattan is a stand-in for Dan DiDio and Bob Harras in Doomsday Clock, and while he’s only interested in making DC more like Marvel, he’s not an idiot. He likely knew DC’s story early on and once he was back in the driver’s seat, he decided to delay that story and Johns’ vision and replace it with those of Bendis, Snyder, and King. Bendis has destroyed the Rebirth Super Family, Snyder has introduced a Dark Multiverse (because that’s just what DC needed, a whole multiverse of darkness) and King dismantled Wally West’s Rebirth development and killed a few other Titans. That’s not even getting to what’s become of Dick Grayson, another of DiDio’s frequent targets over the years. I have no doubt that Doomsday Clock was planned to end far sooner (around November of 2018) and restore the pre-New 52 status quo. For whatever reason, Johns was removed, DiDio swept back in, and DC was delayed and replaced with Metal, Heroes In Crisis, and Bendis’ deconstruction of the Super Family. Doomsday Clock will ultimately not mean anything in hindsight, it’s beautiful message about the essential role of Superman lost because of men who neither understand or like the character or prefer his Bat-costumed confrere much more.

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