Season 2 Episode 11 – Truth and Consquences or My Chemical Fallout Boy
The BAM Crew (Bethany, Alison, and Michael) are back with their final catch-up episode before the new episodes start airing. Well, sort of before. Not entirely before. More like two days after the latest episode airs and Mike got busier than he thought, so editing got delayed, but here it is so there’s that.
Anyway, this time out The Crew is discussing the eleventh episode of Superman and Lois Season 2, which was titled Truth and Consequences. Bethany, Alison, and Michael discuss what Jon-El’s villain name should be and settle on My Chemical Fallout Boy. They also get into what has emerged as the main theme of this season, which is secrets and what impact they have on the various relationships between the characters. There is also a discussion about Tyler’s cute bunny teeth.
Also, Bethany reveals who had The Most Punchable Face and Alison lets everyone know The Top 5 Most Aestheticaly Pleasing people in the episode. Finally, The Crew addresses all of your feedback!
Michael is writing the reviews for Superman and Lois over on The Superman Homepage. Check out his review for Truth and Consequences by clicking here.
Michael also has an essay in the recently released Oooff! Boff! Splatt! The Subterranean Blue Grotto Essays on Batman ’66 – Season 3 and you can order a physical copy of the book by clicking here and get the Kindle copy by clicking here!
Finally, go and check out Alison’s podcasting efforts over on The GeekCast Radio Network! She co-hosted So You Wanna Be A Hawkeye series and you can find the first epiosde of that by clicking here.
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The main theme for the show is “Heroes” by the awesome Mike Schmidt. You can find his work over at Speed Force Music.
Next Time: The Crew discusses the next episode of Superman and Lois titled Lies That Bind!
I must say, I’m a bit less sanguine than you all seem to be about Clark’s revelation of his secret to Lana. This is probably due to my age and early comic book reading. As a proud son of the Silver Age, I see Superman’s secret identity as a critical part of his character. I know that’s not the generally-held view over the past several years, but I’m stuck with it. I guess I can be okay with a very limited circle of people having this knowledge (Lois, Sam, Jonathan and Jordan, maybe Lana as a long-time friend of Clark’s), but this has potential to spread farther than Clark or his family might expect. Will Lana share this with Sarah, who arguably has an interest in knowing Jordan’s secret? Will Sarah share it, perhaps unwittingly, with Sophie, who might be on the young side for keeping such a big secret? Will the secret slip out to other kids at school? To Kyle? To Lucy Lane? One of my favorite Silver Age supporting characters was Pete Ross, Clark’s friend from Smallville, who accidentally discovered Clark’s secret, and used that knowledge to help Clark, but never revealed that he had that knowledge, even to Clark himself. I think I’d have been happier with Lana following a similar path, rather than have Clark tell her. I realize (at least a bit) where the writers were going with that revelation, but it’s not my favorite choice. Just my personal old-guy preference, but I’m not going to yell at anyone to “get off my lawn”.
Like you all, I am rather surprised that there seems to be no military presence guarding access to the mines and the portal. That is so amazingly lax that it almost feels deliberate. I’ll be interested to see if the writers address that at some point.
I remember thinking, in at least the first half of the episode, that Clark’s seeming anger/annoyance at Jonathan and Jordan, along with his unfocused emotional state, may have been because he was grappling internally with his own choice to keep his secret so closely guarded, and the boys’ push to end the secrecy was hitting a bit too close to home for him. Again, just my own thoughts, but it makes it make a little more sense for me.
Jordan’s fight with Jon-El gave me the sense that maybe Jordan was enjoying going all-out in a fight with someone who looks like his brother — something he really can’t do with his real brother. As someone who grew up with two older brothers, I can relate to that idea, especially when the brothers are so close in age, and both teenagers.
I’m looking forward to the remaining episodes of the season, and your coverage of them. Both the TV series and your podcast are high water marks of quality.
Great show, SALTy BAM Crew.
I don’t really have any commentary to add on this episode. It was nice to see Lois and Clark actually making mistakes (and realizing it) when it came to keeping their super secret or “smoothing things over” with other people.
Lassie spent a season travelling from town to town helping people? Did every episode end with Lassie walking away on the side of a country road to sad piano music?
Timmy Ryan was “in the hospital” from the XK use? Candice was “now in witness protection”? I didn’t catch any of that from watching this season. Is this like season one where the streaming episodes have extra scenes than the CW-aired version?
And Timmy shows up in the latest episode joining the other football players piling on Jonathan for messing up their season — not because of he was using, but because HE GOT CAUGHT. Even though Timmy was caught by his mom earlier and all the kids in school were whispering about it. This is another reason why I think Timmy is in one of the more privileged families in Smallville that didn’t want a scandal and didn’t involve the police.
I think the Bleed was first referenced in the first run of The Authority, which I just started reading recently. It predates the New 52 Captain Atom series Uncle Michael mentioned.
And still no DOD or military guards posted at the portal. I’m sure nothing will go wrong with that…
MEANWHILE: IN AN UPCOMING EPISODE:
SARAH: “Hey, has anyone seen Sophie?”
CUT TO: THE PORTAL IN THE MINES
VOICE FROM PORTAL: “Lrig elttil, olleh.”
SOPHIE: “I’m not supposed to talk to strangers.”
VOICE FROM PORTAL: “Regnarts no ma I.”
VOICE FROM PORTAL: “Mom ruoy ma I.”
SOPHIE: “Mom? Why are you talking funny?”
VOICE FROM PORTAL: “Edis rehto eht ot hguorht no emoc.”
[SOPHIE COCKS HER HEAD TO ONE SIDE, STARING BLANKLY.]
VOICE FROM PORTAL: “Seikooc evah I.”
SOPHIE: “You want to cook something?”
VOICE FROM PORTAL: “On. Seikooc.” [HOLDS UP BAG, EVEN THOUGH SOPHIE CAN’T SEE IT.]
VOICE FROM PORTAL: “Seikooc — eeS.”
SOPHIE: “Cookies?! They don’t have those in Juvie! I want some!” [JUMPS INTO PORTAL]
(Let’s see if Uncle Michael will try to read this out loud on air, or if he will record the lines normally and then reverse the audio with Audacity instead…)
Hi BAM Crew!
Thanks for another great SALT episode!
When Clark first opened the discussion with the family about potentially revealing his secret to Lana, you guys mentioned how surprised he was that everyone agreed so quickly and he was expecting pushback. To me, it sounded like Lois was about to say “Absolutely NOT!”, but she only got the “Absolutely…” part out before she was interrupted. I actually don’t think Lois was in favor of this at all, but she was over-ridden by the rest of the family and decided to keep her objections to herself. Just my take on it.
Anyway, thanks again for another wonderful show, looking forward to the rest of the season.
-Jay
I rewatched Episode 12 this morning and I heard Nat say that there are “too many soldiers guarding” the portal, so… it’s about time. Sophie is safe to go back to Juvie and watch her SniperWolf videos.
I also heard, when merged “Parasite Ally” “echo-talked”, the deeper voice saying “let me out” and “help me” a few times. I wonder if Clark will catch that in a later episode.
Looking forward to the new episode tonight, and your next “BAM SALTy” discussion when ready.